Re: Enthusiasm for Hendrix' technical ability - Those under (edit: 80)...who's your guitar hero?

[anaerobe]

Shifting gears again... I found a pretty obscure clip of Frank Zappa live. This is a basic blues progression, and for his solo, go straight to 5:40.

I've yet to hear anything quite like it eg, this depth of eastern fusion injected into a blues format:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4cjNUgZFr0&feature=related

And the somewhat less frenetic "Black Napkins" ..live - I really enjoy his use of the low E string on this tune, he strangles it for all its its worth:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c-NMnYhM3Q&feature=related

[grogg]

How about Wilko Johnson from Dr Feelgood. Saw them a few times and they were great entertainment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaybV46MA6E

[anaerobe]

Yup, really good.

Here are some others, if they have been added let me know:

Good older guitarists: Roger Waters, Joe Strummer, Johnny Winter

Good newer guitarists: Colin James, Buckethead.

Here's a vid of the latter:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw3TT0E0uwU&feature=related

And for you Led Zeppelin fans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9mPXNqsDmU&feature=related

Here's a cover of "Stone Free" that brought a smile:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1AYnRihySE&feature=related


Here's another "jam session" with just about all but the kitchen sink (Bach, banjo, a well known movie theme), check out the banjo in the mid of the vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4q3p_o8A6g

Buckethead is unusual, but my gosh he's talented. The song at 5:10 is amazing IMHO.

[Pollyanna]

Hey chaps!

I found this really interesting reading but as John (Corsair) rightly pointed out, this really isn't a Westone discussion topic. However, I'm not that much of a monster that I would lock the thread so I have just moved it to here instead.

For what it is worth, my son who is almost 23 is a huge fan of Hendrix as are many of the younger generations in my family. Personally, I was never very keen on the man nor his music and I have to admit that I preferred his more 'slower' and laid back songs like 'Little Wing' and even perhaps 'Red House'.

On a final note as far as talented guitarist are concerned, I would like to say that I haven't seen any mention of Robert Johnson who was way ahead of his time!

Polly

[anaerobe]

Thanks Polly!

How 'bout buckethead?

[anaerobe]

Ah well, perhaps buckethead is ... too eccentric.

Back to other "old" heroes...

Syd Barrett was great before he dropped off the deep end.

Also: Dickie Betts

Also: Pete Townshend

Young guitar gods:

Dime (Dimebag Darrell Lance Abbott)

[grogg]

Buckethead amazing, forgotten him. Not for the fainthearted tho.

[Warrn]

Buckethead is sort of like a modern day Hendrix. Astoundingly skilled, but 9 out of 10 of his songs will make your ears bleed.

[anaerobe]

Thanks boys. Both of you are exactly bang on with those assessments eg, faint-hearted need not apply and Hendrixian parallels IMHO. Buckethead's really up in the stratosphere. I had a chuckle watching a vid of him on a PBS special... 90% of the audience were looking at each other and the other 10% were rocking out. Same reaction in 1969 for Hendrix, playing stuff with his teeth.

Bucketheadian factoid: I read that the theatrical mask thing is due to extreme stage-fright... if that's correct, he's doing OK.

Back down to earth, or at least on earth itself are one of the best bands (British, American, Canadian, Kiwistanian, etc bar none) I ever heard as a 14 year old -> present, if for nothing other than their honesty and guts in their stage shows. Joe Strummer et al (Clash)...

I include "I fought the Law" simply because I couldn't find Death or Glory. Good sound on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16u0wwCfoJ4&feature=related

[corsair]

Being in my forties....

You seemed to have missed some large names and influences so far in the guitar greats....

Some of my influences for guitar include:

Brian May (large sound for a 4 piece band)
Randy Rhoads (a god in his short lived carreer)
Angus Young (what a sound and impact on Rock music!)
Eddie Van Halen (the modern rock Hendrix)
Tony Iommy (the Dark Lord )
Gleen Tipton and KK Downing (the roots of Metal)

P.

Angus Young..? Dunno, Malcolm Young definitely as he's the one who writes and plays those bone-crushing riffs, Angus just solos in the blues box; that Gretsch of Malcolms is strung with either .13s or 14s: I tried it once on some POS (stratocaster!!) and whilst my fingers are used to .12s, 14s are something else again; brutal stuff!!

[hendrik]

Corsair, you're quite right, Malcom is the man.
Playing this rhythm guitar....

I saw Jeff Beck a few years ago. He had beautiful women in his band, which played guitar.
I think she's a jazz guitarist, can't remember her name. But during the concert she played nice battles with Jeff,
which have been stunning. So I would like to add her to the list. Maybe someone can help.

Why not add some more bass players: Without them it's sometimes quite difficult.

Marcus Miller
Paul Simonon
Flea
Michael Anthony
Bootsy Collins

Tal Wilkenfeld --> see the DVD Jeff Beck Performing This Week... Live At Ronnie Scott's Jazz Club
Tina Weymouth
Kim Gordon
Melissa Auf Der Maur
Me’shell Ndegeocello

[corsair]

OK, then... Duck Dunn (Booker T and the MGs), Roger Glover (Deep Purple Mk2), Mark King (Level 42), John Paul Jones (Led Zeppelin), Bill Wyman (Rolling Stones), Randy Meisner (Eagles), Phil Small (Cold Chisel), Tab Martin (The Peddlers), Muff Winwood (Spencer Davis Group), Todd Hunter (Dragon), Jim Hughart (session man - played the theme from "Barney Miller"), Chuck Portz (The Turtles), Chris Hillman (The Byrds)..... the list goes on and on of the bassists who have inspired me over the years - these are just the ones that spring readily to mind; tasteful players all with only a couple of virtuosos amongst them... King and Hughart, but they all do one thing well - they let a song breathe and introduce a little harmony.


My 2c worth!!

[Warrn]

You'd think I'd have more specific bassist inspirations since bass is my thing, but I am mostly inspired by entire bands. Here are the few bassists whose names I have gone to the trouble of learning:

Roger Manganelli (Less Than Jake)
Les Claypool (Primus, various solo projects)
Mikey Hachey (Suburban Legends)
Rick Johnson (Mustard Plug)
Matt Wong (Reel Big Fish)

Each individual word in the parenthesis is a link, by the way. I kind of doubt it was worth going to the trouble since I don't exactly listen to popular music.

[grogg]

Just came across this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_lC5CKJYYA&NR=1

JB makes me think why the need for the Floyd Rose?

[grogg]

For basses how about:-
Harry Kakoulli (Squeeze) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6pUZNfzk3Q

[diddydave]

Random squawking... ?? I'd better put a cup on before I throw out my personal prefs...

I'm sorry, but it was just bad. I may not be able to play the Star Spangled Banner on guitar, but I can certainly play random notes that sound better and clearer than the noise he was making. I had to take my headphones off a couple times...

I like Hendrix, but not enough to be able to appreciate that bit of improv. I'm sorry if that's blasphemy, I listen to music that most people don't like as it is.

sorry if this has been posted before but i think some of you missed the point of the Hendrix Star Spangled Banner, this was performed at Woodstock during the Vietnam war and the random 'squawking' is bombs, machine guns and screams of people dying, listen again and you will see that this a comment about America's involvement in the war. Absolute genius if you ask my opinion.

I have just seen Steve Via do the same thing at an opening of a ball game and it appears that he missed the point too.

[corsair]

I'm sorry, but I don't buy into the "Hendrix is God" thing either; yes, extremely talented player and an even better writer but really all he did was to combine the styles of one or two old bluesmen into a coherent whole - Johnny 'Guitar' Watson was doing "Hendrix" in the 50's!!
For my money, the best stuff Jimi did was the quiet, introspective stuff where the song had a chance to breathe - "The winds cries Mary", for example.
Woodstock was hardly an good advert for Jimi as the word was that he was absolutely wasted and hardly knew what the hell he was doing; a close listen to his set is quite revealing...

Now, don't get me started on Eric Clapt - out.....

[grogg]

Then of course there was Les Paul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrC_oqWq2pU&NR=1

No responses about the Floyd Rose mechanism eh.?

[corsair]

Mate, that was Jeff Beck; what can one say?!

[grogg]

Paid £60 for a £25 ticket to see him as I missed the last tour and cos I havent got an Amex card, IndigO2 here I come.
Anaerobe I think you can see how he does those harmonics, its all in the thumb.

[anaerobe]

Grogg - The Jeff Beck blues vid shows off his entirely unique technique which involves a lot of bashing the trem around with and without the bar !?! I thought, I mean, it sounds like he's using a slide ...No.. he was just pushing the entire trem around with the heel of his wrist .. sick. Did I see that correctly??? Anyway - getting slide sounds with no slide within 500 metres of his strat is worth a mighty Hail of the Machine.

Corsair - yes...Malcolm is the engine pushing the entire barge. And to paraphrase your insight as to playing "inside the blues box" - that made me stop and think a bit. Actually made me think about it a lot, half the weekend, when I was trying to focus on fishing. I think what a large proportion of the public, and even a few of us, get from Angus (as opposed to Malcolm) is the formers' natural showmanship. He simply grabs all the attention.

But - I like the blues box, or it likes me.... ah well, I'm a simple person, simple tastes.

post scriptum - Corsair - if its breathing you appreciate, have a listen to Hendrix' "third stone from the sun". (Like you don't already know this).